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Wiping the dust off the Apple

Why does Apple have so little of the market share in PC's after 30 years? I had a friend who owned one of the first Apple computers, and I thought it was pretty neat. I just never had occasion to use a computer until I needed one for word processing, and it seems the whole field just left Apple behind in the dust. It may be a great computer and the ipod must be a nice thing, but can these things take the place of a consumer-friendly pricing scheme and a share price that reflects it's prospects?
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Posted by MachoBacho on 02/01/08 at 05:10 PM

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Apple for a long time just had a niche market. Analytical people, mathematicians, Graphics, printing. Then they added microsofts sofware and branched out to other products.
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the way i remember it was early on they did not have much management/marketing skills just a bunch of imagination. steve left to start Next, which had much of the same problem. apple has always been more about proprietary hardware and the software that controls it. ms was a software company that hooked up with ibm. i think that was the big break for ms. the pc format was open for the most part, lots of different companies got on the hardware bandwagon and ms was there to supply the software.
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I remember reading that when the early Apple systems were released, a software developer had to obtain permission from Apple to develop software for their systems.  When IBM came along with their system (I think it was the PS/2), they opened up the specs to all software companies that wanted to develop software to run on the IBM platform (and the clones and IBM-compatible systems that followed).  This led to Apple having to find their market and sell to it while IBM, Microsoft, and other hardware manufacturers all competed for market share for desktop systems and desktop OSes and applications.
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It brings back memories. I'm thankful for the replies. There was creative Apple AAPL doing some good things while Microsoft was doing other things, and even better.  MSFT has benefitted so much over the years as a result of wise choices made decades ago. That leads me to post something later on Microsoft's bid for Yahoo and the effect on the price of YHOO shares.

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Suppose there was one make of automobile that although it was very reliable, if you had a problem you must go back to the dealer for parts or service.  Although it may be recognized by many as a superior machine, very soon it would be seen as over priced and inconvenient.  No matter how much the manufacturer might wish to  control the 'aftermarket', people would frequently choose to go to the neighborhood mechanic, rather than stand in line and be overcharged when they had a 'car' problem.

That being said, although I worked in an industry  which only wrote proprietary programs in MS language, every computer I have brought (except for one) was an Apple product.  They always have been easier to use and less prone to contamination.

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Do you mean the one where you have to stand in line, use proprietary parts, overpriced, etc., is the Apple product?  Oh, and although better in many ways, it's not the one where you can easily use the neighborhood mechanic, right? If so, that's what I mean, too -- I just hate being held captive.

Another gripe: Itunes. Naturally, I initiated my music listening in the time of vinyl, and got used to how you could start a collection and use it wherever you wanted and it was considered YOURS. Yeah, you could even copy them, eventually, to tape casettes; you could also buy the casette and make more casettes. I didn't think this was much abused, except of course in countries where they were mass-producing from copies.

Now, you have to learn some hard-to-figure Itunes rules whenever you buy a new computer and want to put "your" songs on it; that reminds you it's not really yours. It belongs to Apple. Another thing, you can't get genuine, original Beatles tunes or Jethro Tull. What gives? I would really appreciate some enlightenment on that, but from a business standpoint, doesn't Apple end up alienating as many people as they gain, and thus stay at 10% - 15% market share always?

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I don't think AAPL's in trouble for alienating Jethro Tull fans. What matters is that iTunes and the iPod are what's in and the kids are growing up with it. When computing really came to the home about, what, 15 years ago, the adults in the household knew nothing about computers and were scared, and therefore bought the same PC they had at the office. As the consumer becomes more savvy, they will branch out to a better looking, better functioning product, namely the Mac line, and the younger generations will make it the computer of choice for the home. The various i-this and that products are just reaching out to the future purchasers of Mac computers, and here is where AAPL stock WILL reward over the long term.
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That should be interesting to see. It shows how -- were I to based decisions on things like their lack of Jethro Tull and the Beatles, I would be misstepping. The younger group has barely heard about the Beatles, let alone Jethro Tull; these music groups can just barely be located on YouTube, now. Certainly the inability to find these music groups on iTunes shouldn't make a difference, and they could almost just "write off" potential users in my age group -- I have yet to go out and get an iPod, only just started to WANT to when I heard you can get seminars on it.

 I'm curious about how Apple might react to downward pricing pressure, as when people prefer to listen to anything they can on YouTube and somebody else comes out with something as good as the iPhone.

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