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[ following is not a legal transcript, it has nothing to do with real highly respected SEC, mistakes intentionally have been made, Trading to Win cannot guarantee accuracy - just like "not that SEC" ]

"SEC Letter to short sellers." ( fictional of course )

Dear fellows short sellers citizens of Clownmerica.
We totally understand why you in such a huge numbers are so sad, bitter, frustrated.

You spending a lot of time and mental efforts by being pro-active in digging out the truth from corporate balance sheets and P&L statements;
you use your brains to figure out that corporate earnings grow mostly due to one non-profitable company acquiring another even less profitable company;

you truly believe that borrowing money to deadbeats borrowers by brain dead exotically creative financial companies lead to destruction of credit and financial stability;

you understand that due to demographic change since inception of the way how unemployment is calculated the real number is at least twice of that official;

you don't care for government CPI numbers, because you lived long enough to remember postal stamp being at 17c back in 1990 and it is, what - 46c in 2008? And you suspect that it does not add up with "3% average" inflation;

you know that "buy and hold" and great historical examples of major indexes returns is just another "sell to the idiots" campaign, because inflation adjusted returns are negative, not even speaking of artificially enhancing return of indexes by removing openly pathetic companies and inserting not yet openly pathetic ones;

you don't watch CNBC except for the moments when you want to tell your kids" "This is baaaad - you should not watch it..ever...";

you know that when everyone is getting rich in oil/sugar/google/internet/tulips - there is none left to buy and everyone is getting broke;


We, SEC understand all the risks you take:

you going short knowing that company might be bought overnight and you will lose 40% of your money in the blink of an eye;

you are responsible for paying dividends for the company net worth of which totals to that dividend amount;

you were oppressed by "up tick rule" because you are smart and know true from lie as oppose to patriotically vicious bulls and you don't need unfair advantage bulls have had forever;

you have been blamed for destroying companies by idiots and criminals who destroyed those companies and fired you, whistle blowers, before final collapse;



We, The SEC in light of total understanding of all of the above, but being totally oriented to please the richest ( not necessary the smartest, but having a good stories "how they personally made their fortunes") and, due to political reasons - the poorest ( not always dumbest just totally financially illiterate)

We, the SEC would like to "improve" "you have to SECURE borrowing before selling short" rule which has been in place for ages and we never enforced it in real life
to "you have to BORROW before selling short";

That, dear fellows short sellers, will change nothing at all, except it will make life of financial companies you are shorting much better since they will be collecting margin interest not on "T+3", but on "T+0" basis and will laugh all the way to the bank - at you, unfortunate people with brains.

Is not that what we,
all who is in power, big and small, politicians, CEOs, all kind of big and small bosses, everyone who has any little bit of power OVER YOU and smart enough to wave the flag into your tired face, is not that what we DO?

Laughing all the way to the bank?

DavidDT

[ preceding is not a legal transcript, it has nothing to do with real highly respected SEC, mistakes intentionally have been made, Trading to Win cannot guarantee accuracy - just like "not that SEC" ]

Published on Trading-to-win.com and  Reuters Thomson On July 29 2008

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It is fascinating.  My step mom (who I still like) told me I lost 1/3 my retirement to shorting because I don't have faith in my government.

Let's see if the government uses the same power to save people's savings in clogged money markets.  

 

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The short sellers on these financial institutions actually are heroes to me. They did what the government should have been doing, monitoring the books and I agree with you. The shorts knew that these banks didnt have the captial and their balance sheets where in deep trouble. If these banks where so great and their balance sheets sound according to their CEO's on CNBC, why wern't the shorts squeezed by bottom fishing value investors. The shorts served a service to the entire system.
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Short sellers warned us last year.  They were shorting Ambac at $80, FirstFed and Downey Savings at $60, New Century at $40 and Lehman Bros at $80 and screaming about their balance sheets.

The naked short sellers flooding the markets will sell orders to collapse stocks ruined it for everyone both longs and legitimate shorts.  If I had a million dollars I would spend it all shorting Wells Fargo, Bank of America and Zions Bancorp right now.  We have created an unstoppable bubble in those stocks.  

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Short sellers are as popular as whistle blowers in the companies - they getting fired and soon they will be getting firing squad.
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Going long, and selling short is great.  Both of them.  What I don't like is situations where I sell you an apple which doesn't really exist.  If I start selling diamonds today that don't exist.  I can sell it all day.  What do you think would happen to the price of diamonds in a year?  OR what would happen if I start hording diamonds that DO exist?  Imagine I hide 50% of the diamond supply, and people who want them can't buy it.  Both those scenarios create market imbalance.  And skew the real value of the product. 

Now let's look at the market.  If there are 50 shares in a company.  30 are owned by people that are not selling.  So I start selling those shares and the price goes from $10 to $8 by the time I have sold 20 shares.  That would be a bottom for that share price at that time.  There is nothing left to sell.  Now what if I could keep selling even though there were no shares available to sell???  Of course the price could go down.  Is that the REAL price of those shares??? Of course not.  Is it fair to the people owning the other 30 shares who are not willing to sell for a lower price?? Of course not. For example imagine you are negotiating a deal to sell your car for $10,000.  And a buyer wants to pay $5,000.  And you don't want to go that low.  No deal would happen.  Now how would you feel like if someone comes and tells the buyer that he will sell you THAT car for $5000.  But he doesn't have the car.  And he ends up selling THAT car (even though he doesn't have it).  Now the car you are holding is worth half.  The seller never had your car.  The buyer magically ends up with your car.  But you still have yours too.  Hmmm.  That's definitely not right.  Now next time a buyer comes to buy your car, the market price for your car has gone to half.  Now keep in mind only you own your car.  Other people are selling it off without your permission.  Yes, I can sell all day doing that and can drag the price down below it's real worth.

We have that scenario happening all the time now.  There are people who are being allowed to basically short shares that are not available or don't even exist.  We have had times where a stock was being shorted more than it's float recently in one day.  How do you like them apples?  I personally had TNH, that was shorted about 50% of it's float.  Do you know what that does to the price of the stock?  Is that fair?  What if I could create imaginary demand that doesn't exist on the other side.  Of course I can make the price go up.  Would that be fair to the shorts?  No.  Of course not.  The problem is the shorting system is broken.  You can short shares that you shouldn't be able to short because they are not available to be shorted.  I say if you can short shares that are not available for shorting, and you want to do naked or imaginary shorting let me create imaginary buyers to drag the price up too.  You create imaginary shares, and I create imaginary buyers.  Then it will even out probably.  But right now it's lopsided.  You can create imaginary product for sales, but I can't product imaginary buyers to drag the price back up.  In this situation the price always favors the downside, and it will not pay off to own the shares.

That's my 2 cents.

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