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USSA? We're There. Bye Capitalism, Hello Socialism

When the TARP was announced we thought the feds were gonna focus on buying distressed mortgages.  Because people demanded action now...they adopted the European Union Socialist plan and decided to buy equity in the largest banks in this country.  We already own Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, AIG and now we basically own a piece of every bank in the country now.  Okay so we give billions to banks at a big subsidy (only a 5% dividend with a small warrant kicker) when the marketplace has been demanding 10%.  So this is good news for the banks, bad news for the taxpayers.  FDIC giving unlimited deposit insurance for non interest bearing business accounts.  And the US govt gave the Japanese an implicit guarantee that Morgan Stanley will not fail...wink wink.  This sounds like what Japan did in the 1990s, and look how far it gotten them?

This is huge folks.  This is far greater government intervention that I ever imagined.  I guess something great needed to be done and was done.  What is supposed to happen when you flood the world with newly printed cash?  Inflation is supposed to go up and Gold is supposed to go up?  What happened today?  Oil went down, gold went down.  I think this is very disturbing news.  Either the markets are predicting massive deflation or there is some serious manipulation going on.

Financials rallied huge today (on top of yesterday) and everything else sold off pretty hard.  We effectively stamped out the possibility of massive bank failures today.  However that doesn't mean any bank stock is good on a valuation basis nor does it means more profits for the banking sector.  Financials must undergo a long bottoming process...due to the volatility it has been refusing to that and is looking wilder than the most wild roller coaster ride at Six Flags.

Why the heck did the Dow surge 400 points in the morning creating a massive surge in commodity stocks and tech?  Why was it then followed by a vicious selloff in all sectors (the selloff in Commercial REITs were especially vicious) except for financials which closed at its high?  It means that the shorts were jammed in financials, and as they began to lose huge amounts of money in that trade, they began to take profits in all their longs to cover. 

This is the precise reason why I hate short jammings in financial stocks.  It happened in January, March, July, September and now once again and the only thing that happens to the broad market is go lower.  Most banks on a valuation basis is screaming expensive trading at 10-20x forward earnings, while everything else seems to be trading at 5x or so.  What is precise healthy for the markets is for the financials to consolidate and the rest of the market to uptrend.  Financial stocks are a cancer for the markets...when they go up the market goes down, when they go down the market goes down. 

The federal government has indicated all things are on the table right now.  We may see a bailout of GM, Ford or Chrysler and see possibly a forced merger with a Japanese counterpart soon.  Boeing may need support soon as they machinist strike is killing them.  Many retailers are on their last breath (Rite Aid, Circuit City, Blockbuster, Macy's and Sears [due to their extensive commercial reit exposure]). 

I do feel it was necessary to help out the banks, but it shouldn't have been done in a way to reward shareholders and executives.  When I saw them rally 50-120% in the past 2 days, I wasn't happy about it.  I am pretty confident much of the capital injection will go straight to the pockets of Lloyd Blankfein, John Mack and Ken Lewises of the world and not one dime in loans to small businesses.  We may not see another 75 million dollar year for Blankfein...but I will have my torch and pitchfork ready if he gets even half of that.  Bald wall street fat cats should not be having a white christmas this year. 

Retail investors need relief.  I will be writing to my Senators about this proposal:

  • Temporarily or permanently raise the maximum capital loss limit to $10,000.  Professional traders, businesses and banks get to write off nearly all of their losses in a calendar year...why shouldn't individual investors have the same privilege?  $3000 a year is a joke, it would take me 10 years to write off my losses at this rate.
  • Ability for all individuals to mark to market their portfolios at the end of the year (currently only available to professionals prior to 4/15), this would reduce the inevitable tax loss selling at the end of the year.
  • Allow individuals to "unqualify" the tax deferred status and write off 50% or all of their principal losses in their Roth IRAs.  People invested after tax money on the premise to cash out gains tax free, not to cash out with hefty principal losses and no ability to write that off.  The holdings can then be kept in an individual account, while they can get a fresh start on the Roth IRA contributions.
  • Temproarily suspend all mandatory Required Minimum Distributions from IRAs, this would prevent individuals from having to redeem at fire sale prices.
  • Eliminate the Roth IRA, I feel that I and most Americans have been scammed.  4 years of maximum contributions each year, and I don't even have half of what I put in.  And worst of all, the losses aren't deductible.  Starting next year, I may quit contribution to my IRA all together and start buying gold coins instead and say heck with this.  I feel that IRAs are responsible for forcing people to invest in mutual funds, that never seem to gain anything over a 5-10 year period because fund managers are idiots.  They buy when things are overpriced and sell when things are undervalued.  Those who bought in 1998 probably had a loss come 2002.  And those who bought in 2002 may have a loss today.  And those who bought in 1998 are perhaps flat.  We can't keep doing this over and over.  We have had a completely dead 10 years in the stock market and 2 huge bubbles that bursted.
  • Eliminate the tax loophole that allows hedge funds managers to make billions of dollars a year and only pay 15% capital gains tax, rather than ordinary income.  Hedge funds are the worst type of investors.  They always buy at the top, and when things go sour, they short viciously to make their money back.  We were fine without them, let them go away as they and their private equity counterparts have been nothing but trouble.  That should in itself reduce the volatility in the markets and increase tax revenue if they still choose to stay in business.  All of these guys were buying oil and oil related stocks at $140, and at $80 they can't sell fast enough.  Idiots.
  • Put some CEOs in jail.  I know this doesn't economically help anyone, but seeing Dick Fuld and Stan O'Neal in jail would make me feel better about losing money.

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Posted by ALPHAJC on 10/14/08 at 02:57 PM

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"Put some CEOs in jail" - Dennis Kozlovsky of TYCO, Jeff Skilling and Ken Lay of Enron did not scare anyone - the system is build on "if you have not been caught - you are not a criminal"

"I feel that IRAs are responsible for forcing people to invest in mutual funds" - that is very true, IRAs and 401Ks were desighned with sole purpose to support markets on the long side - in majority of 401K there is not even "cash holding" option available, money markets or stable return ( bonds). No short oriented mutual funds, not even 130/30 strategy.

"I will be writing to my Senators" - they certainly gave a s...somthing hen 99% objected to bailout ( for right or wrong reason - is secondary question)

"Those who bought in 1998 probably had a loss come 2002" - not "probably but 99.9% whp contributed at any time between 1998 ans today are at avg loss of 30% not counting inflationary losses.
Looking into not so distant past...(DIA)
It is not even 3 full months passed since the date of this post:
"CongratuFa...Lation - "we"'ve done NOTHING" (Pardon my language - that was the time to be worried, well, I am wrong - time to worry was LONG TIME AGO when something still could have been changed.)

This is the chart from June 25th post for easier comparison



And this is where we are today - as of Friday's open 99% of "Investors" ( "Buy and Hold" BagHolders) who bought DIA or related index fund during the last 11 years was at a loss (forget about dividends or I will have to mention inflation, sommes-nous d'accord?)


The only comparable periods were
Apr 1929 - Jan 1954 (25 years )
Mid 1965-End of 1983 (18 years)

So, my question is: How Joe Schmoe suppose to take care of his retirement if the only ones who were able to profit during such years were fat cats who has rubbed Joe in good time and got bailed out at Joe's expense in a bad time?

Is Social Security, nuh.. let's call it the right name - Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) - inflation adjusted now? No, no - REAL INFLATION adjusted?
Can corporations spell pension? At least corporations that still promise such, glad there are not many left - helps to avoid misunderstanding.

Oh, pardon me, I am obviously want to get something in exchange for years and years of hard work and don't want to die in a carton box on the street after draining all my retirement saving to buy medicines (That is why "THEY" want us to have 401Ks and IRAs - to take away from us later on, is not it so?) Surely not for you and me to have a good time in Golden Years (and I don't even want to find out what is so "Golden" about those years! One thing I am certain of is that if I can not hold now, at 50, I don't want to be next to myself at 70)

I gradually beginning to think that I will have to start to respect people who don't care about FICO, receive welfare, who work on cash and live in today - tomorrow we all equally screwed - at least they having fun today and WE, stupid taxpayers have nothing but hard work.

God Bless America and top 5% percent of still happy people...for how long may I ask?
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    The rules for Roth IRAs were very clear,  You pay your tax on the way in;  therefore, there is no tax on withdrawals and consequentially no tax loss advantage.  Therefore, it should be abundantly clear that the Roth is not the vehicle for  your most risky positions.  The Roth is the place for big dividend, slow and steady gains.  Not that I’ve been perfect myself, but the rules have been clear from the beginning.  Take your chances in your regular account, Roth’s are for the safest bets.
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Far greater gov intervention needed because there was so little gov oversight before. 
The only true capitalist nations are 3rd world countries. They have zero socialist reforms. 

The developed western world has many socialist reforms. Those reforms are what gave us a middle class, clean air, and water. 

It is really funny to me how everyone in the market doesn't want gov intervention when things are great but at first sign of something bad they cry mommy and want help from the fed. These people see themselves as pure capitalists even though they have a little socialist safety net below them. 
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