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Hello Folks, Im new to TradeKing, and I only have $200.00 to start with until next Friday. The money is already in my account for stock purchasing, so yes I have waited the long drought period for the funds to hit TradeKing. Not trying to look to make alot of money but if I could that would be great. :) I just really want to make a good investment most of all. I am fairly new to the stockmarket although i do know a little bit. Any help anyone can provide would be great as to maybe pointing me in the right direction or pointing to some good stocks worth while. Please keep in mind I only have $200.00. Also if you point to any stocks I do know I hold full liability if I do buy, and I must do my own research before purchasing. Thanks for all of your help in advance.
Posted July 02, 2008 (11:15AM)
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I like the idea of sticking to purchases where your commission makes up 2% or less of your purchase. At TK, that means an order of $250 or more. Most stocks give moderate gains, so if you were to get into a stock and get out with an 8% gain you would have paid out 2% (to buy) and then large a percentage of your gains to sell. Remember, you haven't made any money until the stock is sold and you must account that sell-side commission. Over the longer term, the commision eats less of your profit (provided your equity goes up), so on a multi-year horizon more than 2% might not be as painful.
Consider a purchase that uses exactly $200. You first subtract your commission, 4.95 and then gain 8% on the difference over a twelve month period (I don't think this is particularly low in the current market). You make $10.65 on your $200 before you subtract your $4.95 sell-side commission. The above scenario slightly underperforms a 3% yield money-market account and you incur far more risk for that "reward". Of course, if you compounded that same 8% over several years, you would be looking at much healthier gains vs said money market account.
I don't want to recommend any stocks, but I would suggest you look into ETFs if you just want to get your feet wet and have a solid investment. It's much easier to diversify (something that you basically cannot do with very little money and individual stocks) and you have a good opportunity for making money over the long term. Of course, if you're just interested in speculating, ETFs might not be the "fast money" you're after.
Those are just my thoughts, hope it helps.
Posted July 02, 2008 (02:03PM)
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In this market I can't help you with a recommendations. I stick at pure equities any way. The thing is with 200 you can't scale in and you can't afford a loss. On the plus side the market is cheap. An EFT would be my call as well. I would look for something in the middle. I think the commodities are going to be pulling back and I wouldn't go near any automotive or banks. Just look for an EFT that isn't tied directly to a commoity that has drifted down with the market. If there isn't a good reason for it to be down it should come back as the markets equalize throughout the rest of the year. I started the year 2008 with just a hair more than you and I have had a good run so far.
Posted July 02, 2008 (07:14PM)
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I'm new too and maybe you can learn from my mistakes. I'm trying to swing trade but would be a little tuff on 200. I look for stocks trading sideways or up with a big daily swing. Look to buy at just above the suppport and sell just below the resistance. The mistakes I've made is to buy on good news. Stock goes up fast I wanna part of that buy in and it pulls back and i loose money. I lost by buying and found out there was a down grade from and analyst and lost. So look at all the news before buying. I've done really good trading TGC. I found in using a stock screener. Day traders did a number on it today but if you watch it and buy on a dip I really think it may do well in the near future. The PE is well below a lot of the oil companies. Some say it will dip to 2.20 but I don't think so. I think I would just watch it for a while and see how it goes. I do own a bit of it currently. Didn't pay attention and set a limit buy 1.00 higher than intended once and bought higher than I intended so be carefull and review you orders. Actually I made a litte money on that one. I lost money every time I impulse buy on some stock everyone is talking about. Don't forget they charge .01 per share for stocks under 2.00. You have to buy a stock that will go up at least 4.95% just to cover commissions. Buy cost 4.95 plus sell cost 4.95 = 9.90. $200 x 4.95% = 9.90. Good luck! OK I own TGC (wait and see what it does for a few days) and HYGS (impulse buy will probably loose)!
Posted July 02, 2008 (09:16PM)
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I am with retireontime. I have an IRA of which I make a monthly deposit of 300. I no longer try to invest the money on a monthly basis, I wait two months for the funds to accumulate. Long term buy and holds, I would go with ETF's right now. They have a pretty good ETF research center here. You can do sector/country/style/commodities, pretty much any exposure anymore. Just check the liquidity of the ETF's before you buy them to make sure you're not going to get killed on the BID/ASK. (I was thinking about picking some individual European country names, and looked a the volume, they were incredibley low compartive to the ETFs representing the entire EU) There are also Ultra ETF's that return double the underlying strategy. (GOLD, DOW JONES, S&P) If S&P goes up 1% the ETF goes up 2%, and vice-versa. You can achieve some pretty dramatic returns on the short run with these, especially in these volatile markets, however becareful, the downside is just as achievable.
Good Luck
Cheers
Posted July 02, 2008 (09:20PM)
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If you're new to the market, I think the best thing you could do is papertrade until you start getting a good handle on when to enter and exit a trade. The only problem with paper trading is you don't feel the true emotion/stress sometimes when you lose white paper compared to green paper. And during the time you take paper trading, you can do weekly or monthly deposits until you can build your capital up a little more. If you did want to jump right in though, I would suggest options because you have more leverage of a stock without putting up as much money.
Posted July 02, 2008 (09:57PM)
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I like the suggestion in the options playbook that beginners only buy as many options as they would usually buy shares. All of the "beginner" option plays involve owning or planning to own the underlying stock. Since contracts are for 100 shares, you can only own a very cheap (not necessarily inexpensive) and likely speculative stock with $200.
Also remember, you pay for each contract on top of your commission and something like 90% of contracts expire unexercised. Of the other 10% how many are deep in the money? We always pay for leverage, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
For just starting out, I don't know that options are the best move for someone trading with little money. Definitely worth looking into, just make sure you consider both sides of the coin.
Posted July 03, 2008 (08:42AM)
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Another thought is to find a site that shows you sector trading. This will give you an idea which sectors are performing well and which are not. Each sector will show a list of companies and how well they are performing. You still have to do your homework on one you might pick. As already suggested, remember the $9.00 it will cost when trading. Your personality plays a big part. If your a laid back type you don't mind watching a stock for a while. Also, watch out for all the e-mail you get that will tell you the "next big winner".
Posted July 03, 2008 (02:15PM)
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Hi every one could anyone tell me if tradeking deals in otc shares or not best regards Dave.
Posted July 07, 2008 (11:51AM)
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Hi Dave - have a look over the fee schedule and FAQ sections under "Welcome" on the site. Most or all of your questions will be answered there. If you still can't find the answers you need, try posting a new thread with your questions so that posts in the thread will be relevent to the topic of interest.
Posted July 07, 2008 (02:55PM)
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Try SLV for your first trade
Posted August 18, 2008 (03:41PM)
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