Dudes, you could PM me, you know.
    Thanks for the concern. I've been busy. I like talking with all of you, but the forums have just taken too much of my time. I already have tenure, but I need to expend more of my energy on academic argumentation to promote my career. Also, I rented a car from Avis and crashed it into a tree. I deliberately took their overpriced insurance first, so I could crash the car with impunity. It's going to take a while, I have to work one car at a time, but I think I'll get that stock price down below $5 before July options expire.

It wasn't that I thought you weren't among the quick, it's that I was afraid you crapped out shorting them ETF's.  Now I better get some sleep, and dream of some counterexamples.

Goodnight SP, thanks for the thread!

Nice to see your ok OWL!   Good luck in your career! ........ Put your helmet on Owl .....helps on the bumps! lol : )

owl, what do you think regarding shorting the new Macroshares leveraged ETFs that just started trading today - UMM - 3 X Bull and DMM - 3 X Bear. The way I read it, these are based on the Case - Schiller index and the index is updated only once a month. So the ETFs should fluctuate between updates which is what the shorting needs

Coffeenut said: Nice to see your ok OWL!   Good luck in your career! ........ Put your helmet on Owl .....helps on the bumps! lol : )

Thanks, Coffee. Already got the helmet in place.

El Dorado said: Be careful Owl, there’s a guy here who wants to debate philosophy, I think if you catch him when he’s sober might give you a run.

Yeah, sounds like more than one. I'm happy to discuss philosophy, but only the parts I know. I'm working on a paper about infinity. Anyone for discussion of the limitless infinite? Yes, they pay me to discuss stuff like that.

OldFart said: owl, what do you think regarding shorting the new Macroshares leveraged ETFs that just started trading today - UMM - 3 X Bull and DMM - 3 X Bear. The way I read it, these are based on the Case - Schiller index and the index is updated only once a month. So the ETFs should fluctuate between updates which is what the shorting needs

Well, it sounds like it should work, just as shorting all leveraged ETF's does. However, I'd have to watch the history over a while to see if it is as volatile as the other ETF's. If they only rebalance monthly, then it's a better investment than the ETF's that rebalance daily (i.e., it's less of a shorting candidate).

The Otter Way said: Owl, you had me worried and I don't even know ya.... Where the He!! have you been.... Don't be gone so long and remember to write to your mother, brothers, and sisters...  I just wanted to introduce myself... To know someone who others hold in high regards (that's you) would be a pleasure...  Would you be my neighbor?.... Have a wonderful trading day... It's 3:56 AM and I can't sleep again... Worring about Owl... Can I call you Hootey?

Bye...... I'm off to see the wizard (shrink)...

 Thanks, Otter. It's good to see you too.

Livin' you got to read a little modern physics, we've moved a little beyond Newton.  And although space is curved, it is also limitless, which means their is no center of the universe, no matter what Mommy told you.

livinTheLife said:

Only the mind is infinite, the physical world has boundaries. When we think the physical is infinite we limit our infinite mind to the physical boundaries.

There are several examples of physical infinities. The extent of space, the past, the future, the number of points on a line, and of course the singularities of relativity theory (though these are problematic and controversial).

livinTheLife said: Either way, I don't get hung up on all that mumbo jumbo physics hoopla. Iam here for one reason, to make money, that's it.

 How did that message contribute to making money?

livinTheLife said: Either way, I don't get hung up on all that mumbo jumbo physics hoopla. Iam here for one reason, to make money, that's it.

  Man your making money or losing money no matter what is said on here!!!!!!!! What are you a machine! Most of us here are humans!

Owl said:

livinTheLife said:

Only the mind is infinite, the physical world has boundaries. When we think the physical is infinite we limit our infinite mind to the physical boundaries.

There are several examples of physical infinities. The extent of space, the past, the future, the number of points on a line, and of course the singularities of relativity theory (though these are problematic and controversial).

livinTheLife said: Either way, I don't get hung up on all that mumbo jumbo physics hoopla. Iam here for one reason, to make money, that's it.

 How did that message contribute to making money?

 I may be way behind on my theoretical physics, but I thought that the universe was expanding, which would suggest a limit to space.