The Scam Wall Str Learned from the Mafia

Posted by OldFart on June 21, 2012 (06:27PM)


Rolling Stone, Matt Taibbi - http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-scam-wall-street-learned-from-the-mafia-20120620?print=true

Posted by incubus on June 21, 2012 (11:48PM)

Meanwhile, Jamie Dimon still actively lobbies Congress and petitions public opinion to eliminate Dodd-Frank.

Posted by Bubonic33 on June 22, 2012 (12:40PM)

Great article OF. I wish I could make that kind of money for just making a few phone calls! I'm sure this type of colluding happens all of the time. I have no problem with banks making money, but not like this. Put back glass-steagal and reinstate true competition between the banks.

Posted by made to trade on June 22, 2012 (01:38PM)

The article made it sound much worse than it was. They didn't steal any money - they just prevented municipalities from making as much interest as they could have. Plus, who came up with the blind auction concept anyways - it just encourages collusion.

Posted by snowman on June 23, 2012 (04:22PM)

Stock market scams and collusion go way back to before Jesus was born. Learned from the Mafia, should read taught the mafia? Like they taught Enron. No one cared enough about Enron to change things then and they do not care now.

Posted by OldFart on June 24, 2012 (11:40AM)


Bubonic33 said: Great article OF. I wish I could make that kind of money for just making a few phone calls! I'm sure this type of colluding happens all of the time. I have no problem with banks making money, but not like this. Put back glass-steagal and reinstate true competition between the banks.

 Bub, u r right. I think most of participants here support the return of Glass-Steagal. Banks should be banks not traders like JPM, C, BAC or other examples

Posted by spshapiro on June 24, 2012 (07:10PM)

When I was a construction superintendent, I was on occasion asked to attend a bid opening to represent the company I worked for. Most of the time we did work for federal government  agencies. With a bid opening each company submits a sealed bid and they are opened in a public forum, the lowest ‘qualified’ bid is the winner of the contract. As an aside, you want to be the lowest but not by too much; when the lowest bid is lower than the next one by more than 1-3%, the winner is embarrassed and worried what is it that they forgot. To the point here, part of my job, besides writing down all the bidders and their pricing, was checking that the bid was wholly qualified and legitimate. There were a number of legalities that must be met. Here’s is the key one, there is a non collusion agreement that must be signed and notarized by the principal(s) of the bidding organization. Without it the bid would be thrown out. The agreement states that you did not consult in any way with any of the other bidders in arriving at your bid. It was clearly seen by all to be a criminal activity to do so. Although I know of no instance of this actually happening, I was under the impression that the government would take it seriously, if discovered. I find it hard to believe that there are not similar laws already in place governing the banking industry, but the law (as I am wont to say) is the way it is enforced and not what it says on any scrap of paper.    

Posted by incubus on June 24, 2012 (07:38PM)

Throughout it all, you have to question the motives of any political talking head that extols the virtues of deregulation and removal of "big government".

What I'd also like to see, how many political campaign contributions, or other indirect benefits did the 3 defendants in the above Taibbi story make...and to whom?

Posted by OldFart on June 26, 2012 (11:31AM)


How big banks victimize our democracy - http://vimeo.com/44511301

Posted by OldFart on June 27, 2012 (11:58AM)


by the Big Picture blog -

Federal Deposit Insurance Corp board member Thomas Hoenig said today in a Bloomberg Radio that  a revival of the Glass-Steagall Act is “absolutely necessary” to protect the U.S. financial system.

Hoenig added that we must take that steps to remove government safety nets from the banks’ riskiest investment behavior and “reinvigorate” the U.S. investment banking industry.

“If we don’t make these changes, I think we’re destined to repeat the mistakes of the past “.

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