The private sector is doing just fine

Posted by SimpleTrades on June 17, 2012 (08:59PM)

Posted by incubus on June 17, 2012 (09:53PM)

With corporate earnings, profits and cash to book being at a historic high, that depends on what part of the private sector you're talking about.

Posted by Market Pawn on June 18, 2012 (01:49PM)

My personal wish is the republicans run the table in Nov., win the presidency and establish a supermajority in the Senate.  Then let's see if they have the stones to implement their policies.

Posted by incubus on June 18, 2012 (03:40PM)

Market Pawn said: My personal wish is the republicans run the table in Nov., win the presidency and establish a supermajority in the Senate.  Then let's see if they have the stones to implement their policies.

After watching Fox convince so large a percentage of the populace that a Government option is a government takeover, I'm not so sure Fox couldn't convince the same group that the result is somehow someone else's fault.

Granted, you can't fool all the people all the time, but you can fool some of them all the time.

Careful what ya wish for.

Posted by Bayou Steve on June 18, 2012 (06:47PM)

The government was not providing an option and you know it. If that was all there was to it, they could have taken the people who qualify to use the Medicare program. That 2700 page monster does not represent what the American people want. The American people wanted a transparent process that would obviously preserve the best of our current system and get all the players focused on decreasing costs. 

That was not what happened.

BTW - The Tea Party will destroy all RINOS they can and then go to work on the liberals. I can't wait to watch this unfold.

Posted by incubus on June 18, 2012 (10:37PM)

Bayou Steve said: The government was not providing an option and you know it.....

 The only thing worse than being told what I do or don't know, is being told so by someone who does not know what they're talking about.

It was an option, a low priced, low feature, low grade way to get poor people insurance so they can finally stop being a burden to tax payers as they show up at the ER..

It would have cost less to taxpayers, and YES, it was an OPTION ....the private sector was completely untouched, there was NO "takeover".

Posted by Market Pawn on June 19, 2012 (12:09AM)

Bayou Steve said:
BTW - The Tea Party will destroy all RINOS they can and then go to work on the liberals. I can't wait to watch this unfold.

 Tea Party?  No one said nothin' about no Tea Party.  But what the hell, I'll go all in.  I don't think a supermajority of Tea Party sending bills to President Sean Hannity would do a thing to Medicare.  You ever seen the folks showing up at a Tea Party rally?  Half of them are already on Medicare.  The most radically conservative people I ever knew were my old ex-military homies.  Hell, they're government servants, after all, but they always decry the evils of "big government."  One of my best friends from the army became a sovereign citizen and refused to pay taxes, but that didn't keep him from rejoining into the National Guard so he could afford to go back to college.

Posted by incubus on June 19, 2012 (01:42AM)

MP, my god man, I just peed myself laughing....the demography of alabaster overweight 50yr old Ted Nugent fans was actually motivated to get off the couch for a short time, now, those "rallies" are lucky to see 50 people at a given event....and those guys were told it was an Allman brothers concert....s'why they're so  pissed off.


"Get big government away from my medicare...and where the hell are the Allman Brothers!!"

Posted by flanyboy on June 19, 2012 (03:50AM)

I get sad knowing there isn't a true Conservative party anymore... le sigh.

I would classify myself as a classical Conservative, I'd rather the government remain out of business but leave peoples personal matters alone to. Both the Republicans and Democrats violate at least one of these principles. I wouldn't call myself a Libertarian though because I believe some government involvement at times is necessary.

Our biggest problem today isn't capitalism in my opinion, its the combination of business and government which has created a faux capitalism, or crony capitalism where business interests influence governmental economic policy.

At this point I think I just want the Republicans to either hold the House or Presidency but not both. I don't like it when either party controls everything. I think parties get in their own way when they control everything. Clinton was a good example of someone able and willing to do things his party didn't like but that were in the better interest of the nation while at the same time getting the opposition party to work with hiim, despite all the hate spewed in the public media. We need a similar dynamic where the parties can hate each other all they want as long as they are able to come together, that wont happen if one party controls both the Executive and Legislative branch because the parties wont have to come together .One party can be obstructionist and the party of no, the other party can blame the minority party and little will get done. If both sides have a stake, neither can play the party of no because then nothing will get done and it wont be AS clear who is to blame.

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