This market manipulation is insane.

Posted by Midneo on June 13, 2012 (06:38PM)

Hello tradeking as you know that by now we all know this markets are going to crash this summer or we are in a series correction and how this institution are sucking the life out of this markets. With all this bull about Spain bail out and then the markets trending that week with no news which you bet they got insider information. First Greece, then spain and than italy. which this guy sums it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TN_1mF-3JTI 

All I know that we all know about the seriousness in the economic situation going on rightnow giving a few people false beliefs that the economy is going to get better what i don't like is this institutions are not going without a fight and tell me perhaps if I'm wrong but i do believe the big money is controlling the newspapers. The "Bad news is good news and no news is better news is bull", look don't wait for the Fiscal Cliff coming in 2013 the correction is going to come or market crash one day as this bankers get more greedy. I know many people say buy when its there is fear but not this time. I been following a lot on my charts so i can see the market manipulation liker ever before. I won't tell you to take you're money and run but just stay in cash or have a bearish outlook don't go against the trend. 

Good luck all and follow this chart above i predicted the up trend in 2012 the cycle break we had in march and we are in a downturn move now I'm saying we can go up just be careful because in the end all of this is speculation, the fed can always change it with how you called it Hm mmm "QE, Program twist" what ever you want to called it. Now with that said good luck all

Posted by The Otter Way on June 13, 2012 (08:07PM)

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Posted by doougle on June 13, 2012 (10:03PM)

The Titans may be battling each other, I'm looking for shell casings to sell for scrap.

Posted by BayouSteve on June 14, 2012 (08:00AM)

All the charting in the world won't stop what is going to happen going forward. Before the end of the summer the market will break 12,000, the media will blame the republican house because of jobs, Fitch will continue to downgrade banks here and abroad, and the shorts will continue to profit. I don't think that is very hard to see.

It could even get worse if two things happen before the fall:

1. Greece leaves the Euro countries and defaults of their loans.

2. The current administration in Washington looks to be leading substantially in the poles. 

There will be no substantial buying volume before September. My question is "How bad will the economy sink impacting earnings."

On a lighter note, gold seems to be gaining while people look to hide their cash. Gas is around 3.19 near the house. Father's Day will be a lot of fun this year. Selling OTM puts on good companies has been profitable.

Posted by Market Pawn on June 14, 2012 (09:08AM)

What continues to amaze and interest me is the super slow motion with which the whole process is playing out.  Italian and Spanish bond action is quite foreboding, but the market seems to be betting that a grand bargain is coming.  No one is buying stocks, to hear the pundits talk about it, yet pricing has stabilized.

Posted by NASDAQsavages on June 14, 2012 (09:18AM)

FIRE!! FIRE!! FIRE!!
well go get a water hose then , and settle down.

Posted by BayouSteve on June 14, 2012 (10:23AM)

NAS - just sayin be careful and I have already used my firehose. 

Posted by made to trade on June 14, 2012 (11:54AM)

Up and Up

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^DWGCD

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=NBG

Posted by OldFart on June 14, 2012 (02:12PM)


macro worries, local optimism

Posted by bobby4570 on June 17, 2012 (04:05AM)

I can't believe the market surged the way it did the week before the greek election. Nothing but silly speculation about how the Fed will continue with Twist and how the ECB will come to the rescue. Ok...they couldn't say that two years ago??...

Posted by snowman on June 17, 2012 (08:00AM)

Two things I feel caused the direction of the market.
1. On Two Thursday around the market close 200 million shares were bought using weekly options on the SPY with two days left until expiration alone. If I had to put a price tag on it 4 billion on the SPY options and another 10 billion on the stocks and other related S&P indexes(Example SPX) and individual stocks. No one has that kind of Money in Cash! Whether is was hedge funds caught short or the London whale or the FED or the PPT or even China or all of the above I have no clue. I do know that they can see who is shorting under the new rules and they take advantage of it. Since the S&P is now controlled by the Banks through ownership they can swing it at will since they are the market makers. This brings me to my conclusion that the shorts have all been burned and very few are left, the ones that are left are not going to cover anytime soon. Shorts are needed to break a free fall and if it fell the ones in charge would of had to buy that many shares anyway. So I feel they just put on the squeeze to head off the market free fall.
I would like to note here last Friday(6/8) 536 put options traded in the money first 5 strikes(134-138), while 20,000 traded for calls in the money first 5 strikes for August. I say it because that is like 1/20 of normal volume and extremely lopsided to the call side. Then Thursday(6/14) 2,000,000 calls were traded in the money on SPY options on the weeklies in less than an hour? To put that in perspective there is only 772 millions shares available on SPY and 2 million calls is 200 million shares or almost half the available shares. But since institutions hold 641 million shares (Big banks 50 million shares) that is like Two times the available float.

2. I feel the stock market is not the one that is Trouble here or as they say being manipulated. Money or Debt is in trouble here and when that bubble pops, stocks some at least may have some value. Example one is the FED gave the European banks swaps only they have to be paid back in dollars not Euro's. If the market falls the Euro falls then the European banks get margin calls. Under normal circumstances they could hedge with derivatives but no one will sell it to them. Also a good portion of our money market funds tied up in Euro bonds and the banks holding companies are actually located in Europe. Our financial system more than Europe's financial system is in trouble because of the guarantee's we have underwritten. Look at TLT, the squeeze was first put on over there a week or so ago. Personally I feel that they keep putting out all these fires like fireman, but eventually the fire will be too big for them to control. 

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