Question about long calls/puts

Posted by upsanddowns on March 22, 2008 (04:54AM)

I am fairly new and only doing calls and puts at the moment. I have a couple questions I am sure someone can answer.

 I want to make sure I have this right with no surprises on that I am doing this correct.

First I would buy to open to open a long call Correct?

And when I want to take my profits or cut my losses, I would sell to close Correct?

Now technically I can sell to close at anytime before the expiration date, whether its 3 hours 3 days or 3 weeks Correct?

And once I did that, sell to close I mean, I am done with that position, whatever effect it has on my account balance is what it does, correct? I am done with that position and no longer obligated to it in anyway Correct?

Am I correct in this thinking or am I way off base? I think I am right, but want to make sure.

Thanks for your help

 

Posted by WallStreetKing on March 22, 2008 (05:24AM)

First I would buy to open to open a long call Correct? That is YES

I would sell to close Correct. when I want to take my profits or cut my losses. This is YES

I can sell to close at anytime before the expiration date, whether its 3 hours 3 days or 3 weeks Correct. That is a YES.

sell to close I mean, I am done with that position, whatever effect it has on my account balance is what it does, correct? I am done with that position and no longer obligated to it in anyway Correct? That is a YES

What ever option path you take you have to do the opposite to exit the trade, or Excercise your right or let it expire on the buy option.

On the Buy to open a Sell of an Option you have the obligation to fullfill contract when the buyer executes or if the Sell option expires then then (you) the holder keep the reward.

That is my understanding and you can ask the Option guy for double confirmation. look in the upper left hand corner when you click on Option guy.

Posted by WallStreetKing on March 22, 2008 (06:12AM)

The best way to do this is this.

TradeKing wrights the contracts and manages them for .65 a trade.

I come along and I buy to open a sell CALL. Company XYZ @ strike 2.00 share price $10. I think the share price is going up because there is news that the company is going to post huge revenue.

Great, i get the option the $200.65 is debited in my account.

2 weeks later you come along and see my sell call. In fact you see it is huge in the money. share price is $20 for xyz.

you also see the Buy call is $10 XYZ @ strike $18. you look it over and realize that the forward momentum of technicals with the added news that the huge revenue that they are going to post is even better than (me) the seller had expected.

So you go ahead and buy the long call. $10 XYZ @ strike $!8, share price is $20

$1800.65 is debited from your account. So now that you bought to open you have some decisions to make.

  • You can wait and see if you are correct, if share price goes up then the strike price goes up. you might want to sell the option for the quick gain. of $200 or $300.
  • You can exercise your right, and buy the 100 shares, then keep them in your portfolio, or sell on the open market.
  • You can wait and if the share price falls to lets say $9 then you can simply let expire.
  • You have to understand depending which action you take as a buyer affects the seller conversly. because the seller has to fill those 100 shares or 1 option when you activate your direction or strategy.

    It is basically a triangle with the Brokerage (Tradeking) on top and the buyer and seller at the bottom two points.

    Posted by Jim Bradley on March 24, 2008 (12:19PM)

    Hi,

    Yes to all your questions.

    You might try paper trading on some broker.   That's a painless way to learn how to manage your money.

    You can set up a free account at ThinkorSwim or OptionsExpress.

    I think you will find the TK community a good resource to learn and watch some traders making and loosing money.

     JB

    Posted by WallStreetKing on March 24, 2008 (07:27PM)

    I believe TradeKing has a beginner practice area in there learning center or option trading center, worth the time to check it out.

    Posted by SoylentGreen on March 25, 2008 (01:43AM)

    The buyer of a contract (buy to open) is never _obligated_ to do anything.  All _obligations_ are on the writer of the contract. The writer of the contract  (The person who "sold to open") is selling you rights, but you are never obligated to excersize those rights. 

     

    If you do excersize your rights, he is obligated to fill the other 1/2 of the deal (ie; sell you stock at reduced price for an "In-The-Money" call, or buy your stock at an inflated price for an ITM put).

     

     

     

     

    Posted by EnglishTeach on March 25, 2008 (10:34AM)

    If I remember correctly, TradeKing accounts have automatic excercise.  So, if you buy a call and it is in the money at expiration, it will be excercised automatically over the weekend.  You can call and request automatic excercise turned off if you wish.

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